What hardware?

Started by Solid-Profession, August 14, 2020, 08:55:56 PM

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Quote from: marjohn56 on August 22, 2020, 04:57:28 PM
Quote from: qarkhs on August 20, 2020, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: chemlud on August 20, 2020, 07:13:30 PM
nobody has a problem with pfsense over here, only the other way around, you get banned in the forums for mentioning OPNsense. ;-)
Qotom is also a non-topic there. There are not a few people here rather than there as a result of their behavior.
eets all the requirements of OP. Same company has a new series of devices coming out called Tensor-PC. Details are a bit sketchy at the moment but looks interesting.


And I am one of them... jumped ship before they could ban me!


I have Two Qotom's ( one for dev/test ) and never had an issue with them. First one I got I originally installed ESXi on with Opnsense as a VM, it worked perfectly fine except I was getting no thermal info from the CPU; great little devices.

Out of interest, how much power do they consume?

Quote from: lar.hed on August 23, 2020, 11:44:09 AM
While we are on the subject of Qotom - does anyone know if there is a 8-port ethernet version around? I have the 6-port version, and would not say no to a 8-port version....

Why don't you just VLAN it off?

Quote from: Solid-Profession on August 23, 2020, 02:48:27 PM
Why don't you just VLAN it off?

Two reasons:
1) VLAN does not give you more physical ethernet ports
2) I am trying to reduce the power consumption here, and running a managed ethernet switch to get more ports does not seem to save power

Quote from: lar.hed on August 23, 2020, 06:38:29 PM
Quote from: Solid-Profession on August 23, 2020, 02:48:27 PM
Why don't you just VLAN it off?

Two reasons:
1) VLAN does not give you more physical ethernet ports
2) I am trying to reduce the power consumption here, and running a managed ethernet switch to get more ports does not seem to save power

Ahh. I've got mine already connected to a switch and that has PoE too.. I wouldn't be saving electricity that way myself. That makes sense

Quote from: Solid-Profession on August 23, 2020, 01:01:38 PM
Out of interest, how much power do they consume?


TDP is 15W according to the specs.
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Quote from: marjohn56 on August 23, 2020, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: Solid-Profession on August 23, 2020, 01:01:38 PM
Out of interest, how much power do they consume?


TDP is 15W according to the specs.
Thanks. Was thinking more about the real world consumption but thanks anyway

Nothing on the spec sheet, but the PSU is a 60W block, runs cold.
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Quote from: marjohn56 on August 24, 2020, 09:38:10 AM
Nothing on the spec sheet, but the PSU is a 60W block, runs cold.

Thanks. I guess I'd have to put a watt meter to it lol!

I would, but the one I have is in the office and I've not been there since March!
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Quote from: Solid-Profession on August 24, 2020, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: marjohn56 on August 24, 2020, 09:38:10 AM
Nothing on the spec sheet, but the PSU is a 60W block, runs cold.

Thanks. I guess I'd have to put a watt meter to it lol!


Someone has done it, found this on Amazon:


"I have tested the unit on a power consumption meter and it idles at 14.8w and max 17.6w. This will save money in the long run instead of using an old PC for pfSense."


Of course, that doesn't tell us what was running at the time of the max reading, I suspect mine is somewhat higher under full load.
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Quote from: marjohn56 on August 24, 2020, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Solid-Profession on August 24, 2020, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: marjohn56 on August 24, 2020, 09:38:10 AM
Nothing on the spec sheet, but the PSU is a 60W block, runs cold.

Thanks. I guess I'd have to put a watt meter to it lol!


Someone has done it, found this on Amazon:


"I have tested the unit on a power consumption meter and it idles at 14.8w and max 17.6w. This will save money in the long run instead of using an old PC for pfSense."


Of course, that doesn't tell us what was running at the time of the max reading, I suspect mine is somewhat higher under full load.

Thanks for that. The main reason for buying one of those is the leccy bill. That and it being smaller. This being said, now that I've had a look see, I may end up buying the fitlet2 because it's way smaller, about as powerful and you can power it by PoE which is pretty cool

Quote from: marjohn56 on August 22, 2020, 04:57:28 PMAnd I am one of them... jumped ship before they could ban me!

I think we may have jumped at around the same time. I remember there was a huge long thread with lots of information on using Qotoms and they just deleted it all. I reckon they they did me a favor.

Quote from: Solid-Profession on August 24, 2020, 04:04:58 PM

Thanks for that. The main reason for buying one of those is the leccy bill. That and it being smaller. This being said, now that I've had a look see, I may end up buying the fitlet2 because it's way smaller, about as powerful and you can power it by PoE which is pretty cool


Completely different generation to the Qotoms' I have and gave the power specs on, so I would hope it is more efficient. ;)


Looks very nice too, but don't mention it on the pf***** forum!
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Quote from: qarkhs on August 24, 2020, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: marjohn56 on August 22, 2020, 04:57:28 PMAnd I am one of them... jumped ship before they could ban me!

I think we may have jumped at around the same time. I remember there was a huge long thread with lots of information on using Qotoms and they just deleted it all. I reckon they they did me a favor.


Cannot remember when I jumped ship now, late 2017 I think...( checks his inbox )... nope, December 2016, tempus fugit!
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Quote from: Solid-Profession on August 22, 2020, 02:20:39 PM
Thanks. I guess the other issue is that it uses i211 Intel stuff, which means that if I want to move to Sophos, I'd have to buy new hardware?

There is some discussion of the Fitlet2 on the Sophos Community boards (I was originally going to run XG after I gave up on my original idea of using pfSense):
https://community.sophos.com/products/unified-threat-management/f/hardware-installation-up2date-licensing/109125/qotom-protectli-fw2b-appliance-fitlet2-j3455-purchased?pi2353=1

There is also a long discussion in this thread on the Finnish board I referenced before that discusses different devices and software configurations. At least one user had Sophos XG running on the Fitlet2:
https://bbs.io-tech.fi/threads/tee-se-itse-rautapalomuurit-pfsense-sophos-utm-mitae-kaeytaette-ja-miksi-juuri-se-vaihtoehto.14625/page-8#post-3615316
https://bbs.io-tech.fi/threads/tee-se-itse-rautapalomuurit-pfsense-sophos-utm-mitae-kaeytaette-ja-miksi-juuri-se-vaihtoehto.14625/page-10#post-4370713