What hardware?

Started by Solid-Profession, August 14, 2020, 08:55:56 PM

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Quote from: qarkhs on August 20, 2020, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: chemlud on August 20, 2020, 07:13:30 PM
nobody has a problem with pfsense over here, only the other way around, you get banned in the forums for mentioning OPNsense. ;-)
Qotom is also a non-topic there. There are not a few people here rather than there as a result of their behavior.

Worth checking out Fitlet2 with J3455 at https://fit-iot.com/web/products/fitlet2/fitlet2-specifications/.
Fanless and low power but not sure it meets all the requirements of OP. Same company has a new series of devices coming out called Tensor-PC. Details are a bit sketchy at the moment but looks interesting.

pmhausen said that a low power Apu board wouldnt cut it because

"The PCengines box will get you 512 Mbit/s throughput but not with additional services. Most people want IDS/IPS for ingress ;)"

Would I not run into the same problems here?

Quote from: chemlud on August 20, 2020, 07:13:30 PM
nobody has a problem with pfsense over here, only the other way around, you get banned in the forums for mentioning OPNsense. ;-) (or even for asking heretical questions)

I still have to use one install of this piece of software, as I want to use IPS on a PPPoE WAN interface. Not a problem, really.

Fully support your "old hardware rulez", but the young guys always have a look at the electricity bill. But on the other hand: what you spent for electricity you safe for the warming of the house in winter time :-D

Electricity costs AND a lack of space lol. If the old hardware consumed less AND was as small then that'd be fantastic

An Optiplex SFF is not really "big". And if you have old hardware lying around, you safe some 100 bucks that you can invest in electricity...
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Quote from: chemlud on August 21, 2020, 09:36:11 AM
An Optiplex SFF is not really "big". And if you have old hardware lying around, you safe some 100 bucks that you can invest in electricity...

Perhaps but I've only got a small rack. Also tbh I've always been a fan of "small" The smaller something is the better for me. It's an aesthetic thing. I slowly want to replace my NAS with something that's tiny too

NAS? I built some in mini-ITX enclosures with an odroid xu4 and 2x 2.5" SSDs/HDDs...
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Quote from: chemlud on August 21, 2020, 11:20:15 AM
NAS? I built some in mini-ITX enclosures with an odroid xu4 and 2x 2.5" SSDs/HDDs...

I'll probably replace that with something raspberry pi... sized but not quite pi

The odroid xu4 is pi-sized, but with GBit ethernet, 2x USB3, fast processors and solid OS support. :-D
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Quote from: chemlud on August 21, 2020, 01:34:44 PM
The odroid xu4 is pi-sized, but with GBit ethernet, 2x USB3, fast processors and solid OS support. :-D

Someone told me to go with the nanopi instead. Is the odroid better?

What is "better"? :-D

Have only raspberries (10-20) and some XU4. NAS is stable and performant...
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Quote from: chemlud on August 21, 2020, 06:46:56 PM
What is "better"? :-D

Have only raspberries (10-20) and some XU4. NAS is stable and performant...
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Faster, easier to use, has real boards?

Quote from: Solid-Profession on August 21, 2020, 08:50:25 AM
pmhausen said that a low power Apu board wouldnt cut it because

"The PCengines box will get you 512 Mbit/s throughput but not with additional services. Most people want IDS/IPS for ingress ;)"

Would I not run into the same problems here?

I don't know as I am not running IDS/IPS on mine at the moment but see https://bbs.io-tech.fi/threads/palomuuri-1gbit-kuituliittymaelle.74958/#post-2855744 and other discussion on the same board. You will need to use Google translate unless you read Finnish.

Quote from: qarkhs on August 21, 2020, 08:35:33 PM
Quote from: Solid-Profession on August 21, 2020, 08:50:25 AM
pmhausen said that a low power Apu board wouldnt cut it because

"The PCengines box will get you 512 Mbit/s throughput but not with additional services. Most people want IDS/IPS for ingress ;)"

Would I not run into the same problems here?

I don't know as I am not running IDS/IPS on mine at the moment but see https://bbs.io-tech.fi/threads/palomuuri-1gbit-kuituliittymaelle.74958/#post-2855744 and other discussion on the same board. You will need to use Google translate unless you read Finnish.

Thanks. I guess the other issue is that it uses i211 Intel stuff, which means that if I want to move to Sophos, I'd have to buy new hardware?

Quote from: qarkhs on August 21, 2020, 08:35:33 PM
Quote from: Solid-Profession on August 21, 2020, 08:50:25 AM
pmhausen said that a low power Apu board wouldnt cut it because

"The PCengines box will get you 512 Mbit/s throughput but not with additional services. Most people want IDS/IPS for ingress ;)"

Would I not run into the same problems here?

I don't know as I am not running IDS/IPS on mine at the moment but see https://bbs.io-tech.fi/threads/palomuuri-1gbit-kuituliittymaelle.74958/#post-2855744 and other discussion on the same board. You will need to use Google translate unless you read Finnish.

So near 1 gigabit for opnsense? I dunno if it supports AES-NI too? Sure it might not be needed now, but may be required in the future

Should I get this?

Atom x7-E3950 [CE3950

8 GB [D8]

M.2 SATA 64 GB [M64S]

No OS

Which Facet card?
FC-OPLN 1x SFP+ Gbit Ethernet optical [FOPLN]?

I don't know about the interfaces, given that I honestly want it to last. If I have 10Gb infrastructure in the future I'd want this firewall to handle that too. Ideally both WAN and LAN could be SFPs? So I could stick in a module that connects to another device?

And leave everything else as standard?

You can customise the order here
https://fit-iot.com/web/product/fitlet2-build-to-order/

Quote from: qarkhs on August 20, 2020, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: chemlud on August 20, 2020, 07:13:30 PM
nobody has a problem with pfsense over here, only the other way around, you get banned in the forums for mentioning OPNsense. ;-)
Qotom is also a non-topic there. There are not a few people here rather than there as a result of their behavior.
eets all the requirements of OP. Same company has a new series of devices coming out called Tensor-PC. Details are a bit sketchy at the moment but looks interesting.


And I am one of them... jumped ship before they could ban me!


I have Two Qotom's ( one for dev/test ) and never had an issue with them. First one I got I originally installed ESXi on with Opnsense as a VM, it worked perfectly fine except I was getting no thermal info from the CPU; great little devices.
OPNsense 25.7a - Qotom Q355G4 - ISP - Squirrel 1Gbps.

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While we are on the subject of Qotom - does anyone know if there is a 8-port ethernet version around? I have the 6-port version, and would not say no to a 8-port version....