Missing RRD Graphs

[BertM]

After updating to 15.7.22, the rrd graphs are no longer there.
Is this intentional, or just an unfortunate mishap and will they come back?

Kind regards,
Bert

[Andreas]

Hi Bert
The Rrd graphs have been taken out from the system since the 15.7.21 release
OPNsense 15.7.21 released
https://forum.opnsense.org/index.php?topic=1795


andreas

[phoenix]

As mentioned above, they're gone but they have been replaced by System Health. I'd suggest that monitoring your firewall should be the role of some other server on your LAN with something like LibreNMS. :)

[franco]

The won't come back. I would like to focus on why they might still be needed and how we can improve System Heath to meet all the requirements.

[rost]

I am very upset that rrd is no more in this version.
There were normal tables and graphs that can be easily saved as a picture.
And now I have to look at here is!

[franco]

Hmm, that looks like a picture to me. But on a more serious note, what browser are you using? This doesn't look 100% correct...

[rost]

Chrome 47.0.2526.106
Lunux 64bit
How can I return rrd?

System Health to me is absolutely useless!
There are all indicators of traffic does not meet the reality.
Why is there megabytes, not megabits?
The rest of the graphics at all empty and I do not understand why they are needed.

Please return rrd
p.s. I was hoping to get statistics on the load channel for the month and the year. But no luck, you erased rrd!

[phoenix]

As mentioned several times, the rrd graphs are not coming back and my opinion would be to use some other server on your system for a more complete monitoring system - is there any reason you don't want to do that?

[rost]

I think is not appropriate to set a separate monitoring system in order to have statistics on the utilization of channels.
To put another OS in a small network? What for?
Where I have a large network, I use zabbix, but I have a small company with a small server, which is nothing other than to monitor "whether enough Internet channel and how the data are on the VPN"

Is RRD demanded a lot of resources?

[phoenix]

I think is not appropriate to set a separate monitoring system in order to have statistics on the utilization of channels.

Why not, don't you monitor all the machines in your network?

To put another OS in a small network? What for?

As I've just mentioned, to monitor your complete network and you could always add monitoring software to an already existing server.

Where I have a large network, I use zabbix, but I have a small company with a small server, which is nothing other than to monitor "whether enough Internet channel and how the data are on the VPN"

Is RRD demanded a lot of resources?

Well, we could debate this point for ever but the position is quite clear and the rrd graphs are gone. Whatever you decide to do, it's your choice in the end. ;)

[franco]

Okay, maybe some misconceptions here... We removed the RRD frontend graphics generation, because ever since we started people have said they don't like it for one reason or another. What we have done is replace the frontend only. The RRD data that is being collected is still there, and you can easily export it. There is no loss in data at all. It looks different any maybe a label is wrong. These things can be fixed.

We've also talked about static reports, PDF export and so on, but we have much larger dragons to slay with the GUI itself. Internal discussion on System Health went the way of "it's good that we did this, but it already cost a lot of time that could have been spent elsewhere".

The RRD frontend code can also be brought back as a plugin. I'll happily merge a pull request, but this won't be carried out by any of our project's resources.

So, which way do we want to go?

[franco]

PS, can you humour me and use Firefox for the page view instead? It should really look like this... https://opnsense.org/system-health-whats-next/

[rost]

Well, I try not to use the system-health in the chrome traffic for more than 60 hours.
Then there are still shortcomings (maybe it's not just me)
When I go to the tab "Traffic" is displayed by default ipsec.
I never set up ipsec and it is off in this system.
I turned to the setting is per IPv6, why the graphs displaying charts ipv6?

[franco]

Welcome to the wonders of our code heritage. The backend always did this, the frontend simply hid it. We've cleaned up such things in the last 12 months and this is no exception. :)

The interface selection has a select bug and could reorder the entries, we can fix that.

I am guessing you mean you don't use IPv6? The data points are always there even if not enabled, why should we hide them? If not, please help me to understand better.

[rost]

System: Settings: Networking
Allow IPv6  (box is unchecked)
All IPv6 traffic will be blocked by the firewall unless this box is checked.
NOTE: This does not disable any IPv6 features on the firewall, it only blocks traffic.

All IPv6 traffic will be blocked  I was thinking that why me these charts if they will always be zero.