What to do with "Rules" now? There are still rules contained ...

Started by senseOPN, February 28, 2026, 02:37:16 PM

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After migration, I still see "Rules [new]" and "Rules".
Within "Rules" there are still 9 automatically added rules - and I am not sure if that means they now exist double, in the old and in the new rules.

A clear way would be to remove the "Rule" and rename "Rules [new]" to simply "Rules".

Can I do this somehow?
Will this be added later?

As there are still rules listed with in the old rules (), this is not just cosmetic.
It is quite confusing :-)

Also, even as I deleted all "Floating Rules" they are still listed for other Interfaces, see the screenshot.


Quote from: senseOPN on February 28, 2026, 02:37:16 PMAfter migration, I still see "Rules [new]" and "Rules".
Within "Rules" there are still 9 automatically added rules - and I am not sure if that means they now exist double, in the old and in the new rules.

No, not double.  It's just a Jedi mind trick.

All the rules exist in the new UI and can only be edited there after migration.  Assuming you don't subsequently add more legacy rules.

As you click through each of the interfaces in the legacy UI, you'll notice they're all empty in terms of the rules that would normally be editable there.  In other words, none of the interfaces have interface rules.  None of the groups (if you have any) have group rules.  Floating doesn't have any floating rules.  They're all empty now.

Nevertheless, each of them still shows the rules from higher and lower sequence ranges, including automatic rules, in the drop-downs.  Those are the overall, combined rules from both legacy and new UIs that still govern the interface at various levels besides the one you're looking at.

(Not sure if that last paragraph made sense.)

Quote from: senseOPN on February 28, 2026, 02:37:16 PMA clear way would be to remove the "Rule" and rename "Rules [new]" to simply "Rules".

Can I do this somehow?
No, not yet.  Unless you want to hack on the code.

Quote from: senseOPN on February 28, 2026, 02:37:16 PMWill this be added later?
The devs have said the old rules UI will be deprecated at some point, but it's too early.  They're not even asking people to migrate at this time.

Quote from: senseOPN on February 28, 2026, 02:37:16 PMAs there are still rules listed with in the old rules (), this is not just cosmetic.

It isn't cosmetic and those are indeed real rules, just not duplicates.  There's no conflict.

Quote from: senseOPN on February 28, 2026, 02:37:16 PMIt is quite confusing :-)

Agreed.  Takes a minute to realize what's going on.

Quote from: senseOPN on February 28, 2026, 02:37:16 PMAlso, even as I deleted all "Floating Rules" they are still listed for other Interfaces, see the screenshot.

Hopefully it makes sense now. :)

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TLDR; there's nothing more you need to do after migration if you followed all the steps up to and including the one to delete the legacy rules.

Unsolicited advice: once you've migrated, don't look back at the legacy UI for any reason.  Just forget it exists and try to acclimate to the new one (which is a lot like a spreadsheet).  The exception is for Outbound NAT as that isn't migrated yet.
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Quote from: senseOPN on February 28, 2026, 02:37:16 PMCan I do this somehow?

You can create a restricted administrator account and deny access to the the old Rules section (and anything else you don't use in your environment) to clean up the menu, and use that account.