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I thought I understood mDNS/Airplay, but now having HP dns_sd - how to handle?
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February 10, 2019, 05:20:45 pm »
I thought that I understood the way that Apple services, HP printers with Airplay implemented, and other such services worked on a segmented LAN. The LAN here has a transparent WIFI AP that bridges wireless devices to OPT3, and filter rules on OPT3 allow access to the local resolver (Unbound: it's a small LAN with maybe <12 devices needing a static IP) and the LAN itself.
As I've understood it, devices broadcast requests/discovery announcements to their segment (bridged if needed by mdnsrepeater/avahi), and discover other devices on the LAN that way. Irritating to have to bridge, but okay, doable.
Just now I hit a completely new thing in the zero-config realm, and I'm trying to understand how to integrate that into my LAN. I tried to use my printer from my mobile phone. The HP print service couldn't find the printer, but I could easily reach its built-in web UI from my phone, so TCP/UDP all work fine between the phone and printer. Intrigued, I ran tcpdump and found the HP Android print server plugin was sending odd DNS requests, which I now know are dns-sd packets, to the local LAN resolver, to try and find presumably statically coded or dynamic discovery records of local services.
The domain's it's looking for(initially at least) are: lb._dns-sd._udp.MY.DOMAIN and b._dns-sd._udp.MY.DOMAIN
This has thrown me on many levels. Please help me work out what to do!
I take a guess that it's piggybacking on (or similar to) Apple Airplay, and HP uses this as a kind of subnet-aware zeroconf autodiscovery, where device details are dumped into DNS TXT strings by local dns-sd aware devices, and DNS can be interrogated for them by service users. That leaves me 3 questions:
I don't want to have to manually add TXT strings to Unbound any time a new service is offered by a friend's device. But Unbound is generally read-only on DNS records, once running. Is there a way to make this dns-sd discovery method work
without
ditching Unbound as the LAN resolver? (I've never used Dyn DNS for anything but could use it if it helps)
The HP print plugin seems to only look for dns-sd records. If it knew the device IPs, would it be able to interrogate them directly, or does it need that middleman DNS service to log them and serve them? Like, is there a way I could tell the HP thing to just add a printer at some IP or another, or is that unlikely to work?
Should I just use different (non-HP) software? But then, friends with Apple iThings will want to print and share services on the LAN, and print software won't solve it for those. Will a fix for dns-sd combined with some kind of mdnsrepeater, finally fix all common zeroconfig discoveries, or are there others that are popular and I need to handle?
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Re: I thought I understood mDNS/Airplay, but now having HP dns_sd - how to handle?
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Do you have DHCP Static Mapping and TXT Comment Support checked in Unbound - General ?
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