Which VPN to use?

Started by defaultuserfoo, June 03, 2022, 10:04:40 AM

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Quote from: Vilhonator on June 06, 2022, 04:56:56 PM
To my knowledge, AP is just device which allows wireless access to network and you need to connect it to a wireless network which allready is password protected, uses RADIUS or Voucher (https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/captiveportal.html) or use app of some sort to secure it with password. Otherwise it's just plain wireless repeater without password protection.

Well, take a look at normal access points like the MSM422 from HP or the later models from Aruba.  The Aruba APs have an access point controller built into the AP so you don't need an extra device, which is cool for redundancy.

I guess I'd be totally disappointed if I had APs from Ubiquity ...

Quote from: Vilhonator on June 06, 2022, 06:36:25 PM
Quote from: defaultuserfoo on June 06, 2022, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: Vilhonator on June 06, 2022, 12:22:16 PM
And your phone doesn't have USB port to which you could dock it or any other method that would enable you to display the phone screen on your monitor?

It does have an USB port, but monitors don't connect to USB ports.  Even if you could find a monitor that does, you wouldn't get an image.

I know that.

To display phone screen on your PC, you would have to use docking station and phone which supports displaying screen via USB (also docking station has to have display port, HDMI port or VGA/DVI port.)
Now you might not be able to use your keyboard and mouse, but you can display your phone screen that way. This is same method how laptop docking stations work (except instead of USB, they connect to thunderbolt port on the Laptop)

2nd way you might be able to display phone screen, is using bluetooth and right software.

3rd way to share your phone display to PC, is using software that came with it and connect the phone to USB port on the PC (mine does that, though I do have a smart phone and don't know what is the case with IP phones or desk phones).

I expect to be able to connect through RDP or at least VNC.  Anything else doesn't make sense.

Quote from: defaultuserfoo on June 07, 2022, 10:38:36 AM
Quote from: Vilhonator on June 06, 2022, 04:56:56 PM
To my knowledge, AP is just device which allows wireless access to network and you need to connect it to a wireless network which allready is password protected, uses RADIUS or Voucher (https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/captiveportal.html) or use app of some sort to secure it with password. Otherwise it's just plain wireless repeater without password protection.

Well, take a look at normal access points like the MSM422 from HP or the later models from Aruba.  The Aruba APs have an access point controller built into the AP so you don't need an extra device, which is cool for redundancy.

I guess I'd be totally disappointed if I had APs from Ubiquity ...

You APs don't have controllers build into it, one that can be managed by connecting to network and typing right ip to browser without having to install controller has a firmware which has webgui.

There are benefits in having to install controller to manage network devices.

Thanks to controllers, you are able to solve network issues when you can't access webgui or SSH/CLI of the device and being able to monitor and manage all devices from the controllers GUI.

Another advantage is that you are able to expand network, monitor and manage all devices from single GUI

Downside is that you pretty much are forced to use single brand and even could be limited to devices of certain series from that brand.

Another downside is that you might actually have to get additional hardware to have full control over your network

So Ubiquity is generally quite decent brand, their devices are more suitable for enterprises, schools and tech savy network geeks.

@Vilhonator you are not being helpful. The OP is trying to come to a decision about how best to connect two sites via VPN. While I did go off-topic, too, I kept it to a single post or two.

Could a moderator please split this thread if the forum software permits?
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Quote from: pmhausen on June 07, 2022, 11:57:28 AM
@Vilhonator you are not being helpful. The OP is trying to come to a decision about how best to connect two sites via VPN. While I did go off-topic, too, I kept it to a single post or two.

Could a moderator please split this thread if the forum software permits?

Yes I went off topic, but answer to the question of OP is this: Best VPN of choice is one of which you are familiar with and have relatively good knowledge on. That is if you want to just get things working without major complications.

Quote from: Vilhonator on June 07, 2022, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: defaultuserfoo on June 07, 2022, 10:38:36 AM
Quote from: Vilhonator on June 06, 2022, 04:56:56 PM
To my knowledge, AP is just device which allows wireless access to network and you need to connect it to a wireless network which allready is password protected, uses RADIUS or Voucher (https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/captiveportal.html) or use app of some sort to secure it with password. Otherwise it's just plain wireless repeater without password protection.

Well, take a look at normal access points like the MSM422 from HP or the later models from Aruba.  The Aruba APs have an access point controller built into the AP so you don't need an extra device, which is cool for redundancy.

I guess I'd be totally disappointed if I had APs from Ubiquity ...

You APs don't have controllers build into it, one that can be managed by connecting to network and typing right ip to browser without having to install controller has a firmware which has webgui.

The ones from Aruba I have configured do.
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So Ubiquity is generally quite decent brand, their devices are more suitable for enterprises, schools and tech savy network geeks.

Ubiquity is ok for home usage, that's all.  Their lack of documentation alone makes for that.

Quote from: Vilhonator on June 07, 2022, 01:00:41 PM
Quote from: pmhausen on June 07, 2022, 11:57:28 AM
@Vilhonator you are not being helpful. The OP is trying to come to a decision about how best to connect two sites via VPN. While I did go off-topic, too, I kept it to a single post or two.

Could a moderator please split this thread if the forum software permits?

Yes I went off topic, but answer to the question of OP is this: Best VPN of choice is one of which you are familiar with and have relatively good knowledge on. That is if you want to just get things working without major complications.

So you still didn't understand the question I was asking.

I'll try to follow pmhausens advice to avoid trying to get a layer 2 connection to work.  Like he pointed out, it seems it is not necessary because there are other ways.  I studied the documentation some more, and it seems that the access points can get the IP address of the controller through DNS when they are reset to factory defaults.  I can test that in a couple days.

(Documentation like that is what Ubiquity needs to learn to create before their products are suitable for more than casual home usage.  And I do mean casual.)