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Hardware and Performance / Hardware Recommendation for new OpenSense Server
« on: February 15, 2023, 07:04:20 pm »
I wonder if I could ask for help recommending hardware for my first OpenSense Server?
Goals
I would like to be able to achieve:
Constraints
I have a vented AV closet in my house but no space for a full rack. My Switches are awkwardly mounted vertically on the AV rack, and have I mentioned they are NOISY!
Current State
Requirements/Load
We have a couple mid to high end gaming machines in the house each with a 10gbe SFP+ Chelsio Network Interface Card.
Switches
Dell PowerConnect 8024F 10gbe SFP+ / RJ45 Managed Switch (Too Big and too Noisy)
Dell PowerConnect 5524 10gbe SFP+ / RJ45 Managed Switch (Too Big and too Noisy)
Internet Connection
AT&T Fiber 1 Gigabit up and down (5 Gigabit is coming soon I hope)
Gateway: HUMAX BGW320-500
TrueNAS Server
Version: TrueNAS-12.0-U8
Intel Xeon E5-2603 V4
128 Gigs of ECC DDR4
Two x RaidZ2 Pools of 7 Disks Each
10gbe SFP+ Chelsio T520-SO-CR NIC
1 x Intel Xeon E5-2603 V4 1.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
1 x Noctua NH-U12DXi4 55 CFM CPU Cooler
1 x Supermicro MBD-X10SRL-F-O ATX LGA2011-3 Narrow Motherboard
4 x Kingston ValueRAM 32 GB (1 x 32 GB) Registered DDR4-2133 CL15 Memory
1 x Samsung 840 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
15 x Western Digital Red 8 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive
1 x EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
5 x StarTech.com 3 Drive Bay Aluminum Trayless Hot Swap Mobile Rack Backplane with Fan and Lock for 3.5 SAS II/SATA III - 6 Gbps Hard Drive (HSB3SATSASBA)
1 x 10gbe Chelsio T520-SO-CR Network Adapter PCI Express 3.0 X8 Fibre Channel Over Ethernet (Fcoe)
2 x IBM 46M0861 LSI SAS9220-8i ServeRAID M1015 8 Channel SAS/SATA Raid Controller (Flashed to IT Mode)
Inspiration
My inspiration for this build is a video called "Son of the Forbidden Router" https://youtu.be/OcLcCfReeOQ?t=151 over at Level1Techs. I decided to steer away from the "forbidden" aspect of his build, but I wonder what everyone thinks of his hardware recommendation: A Gigabyte MW34-DP0 workstation board with an i5 Alder Lake processor. He seems to feel strongly that at least Alder Lake is required for anything faster than 1gigabit. This sent me to eBay to look for some used corporate workstations with an Alder Lake i5 or i7.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=%22i5-12400%22&_sacat=179&LH_TitleDesc=1&_fsrp=1&_dcat=179&_oaa=1&_sop=1&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1
Do any of you have thoughts on his assessment? Is this overkill? Would one of these Lenovo, HP, dell used corporate boxes present any compatibility challenges with OpenSense?
Also, I already happen to own a leftover Ryzen 7 5800x.
It seems pretty evenly matched to the Alder Lake i5 (i5-12400). https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X-vs-Intel-Core-i5-12400/4085vs4122
I guess the bottom line question is:
Is there any reason to avoid consumer grade hardware when building an OpenSense router? Will I run in to compatibility issues? Do I need ECC ram?
Goals
I would like to be able to achieve:
- Whole house VPN
- Whole house Ad Blocking
- Separate Router from Access Points for better Wi-Fi coverage and control.
- Maintain 10gbe traffic
- Get rid of Noisy datacenter switches (if possible)
- Rock Solid Solution (minimal reboots)
- Budget is a factor but I am not above scrounging eBay.
Constraints
I have a vented AV closet in my house but no space for a full rack. My Switches are awkwardly mounted vertically on the AV rack, and have I mentioned they are NOISY!
Current State
Requirements/Load
We have a couple mid to high end gaming machines in the house each with a 10gbe SFP+ Chelsio Network Interface Card.
Switches
Dell PowerConnect 8024F 10gbe SFP+ / RJ45 Managed Switch (Too Big and too Noisy)
Dell PowerConnect 5524 10gbe SFP+ / RJ45 Managed Switch (Too Big and too Noisy)
Internet Connection
AT&T Fiber 1 Gigabit up and down (5 Gigabit is coming soon I hope)
Gateway: HUMAX BGW320-500
TrueNAS Server
Version: TrueNAS-12.0-U8
Intel Xeon E5-2603 V4
128 Gigs of ECC DDR4
Two x RaidZ2 Pools of 7 Disks Each
10gbe SFP+ Chelsio T520-SO-CR NIC
1 x Intel Xeon E5-2603 V4 1.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
1 x Noctua NH-U12DXi4 55 CFM CPU Cooler
1 x Supermicro MBD-X10SRL-F-O ATX LGA2011-3 Narrow Motherboard
4 x Kingston ValueRAM 32 GB (1 x 32 GB) Registered DDR4-2133 CL15 Memory
1 x Samsung 840 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
15 x Western Digital Red 8 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive
1 x EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
5 x StarTech.com 3 Drive Bay Aluminum Trayless Hot Swap Mobile Rack Backplane with Fan and Lock for 3.5 SAS II/SATA III - 6 Gbps Hard Drive (HSB3SATSASBA)
1 x 10gbe Chelsio T520-SO-CR Network Adapter PCI Express 3.0 X8 Fibre Channel Over Ethernet (Fcoe)
2 x IBM 46M0861 LSI SAS9220-8i ServeRAID M1015 8 Channel SAS/SATA Raid Controller (Flashed to IT Mode)
Inspiration
My inspiration for this build is a video called "Son of the Forbidden Router" https://youtu.be/OcLcCfReeOQ?t=151 over at Level1Techs. I decided to steer away from the "forbidden" aspect of his build, but I wonder what everyone thinks of his hardware recommendation: A Gigabyte MW34-DP0 workstation board with an i5 Alder Lake processor. He seems to feel strongly that at least Alder Lake is required for anything faster than 1gigabit. This sent me to eBay to look for some used corporate workstations with an Alder Lake i5 or i7.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=%22i5-12400%22&_sacat=179&LH_TitleDesc=1&_fsrp=1&_dcat=179&_oaa=1&_sop=1&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1
Do any of you have thoughts on his assessment? Is this overkill? Would one of these Lenovo, HP, dell used corporate boxes present any compatibility challenges with OpenSense?
Also, I already happen to own a leftover Ryzen 7 5800x.
It seems pretty evenly matched to the Alder Lake i5 (i5-12400). https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X-vs-Intel-Core-i5-12400/4085vs4122
I guess the bottom line question is:
Is there any reason to avoid consumer grade hardware when building an OpenSense router? Will I run in to compatibility issues? Do I need ECC ram?
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