Updated - first impressions

[tbt39]

That's fair. I'm not a designer, however, so apologies if I can't be more specific..


Using the opnsense theme for the sake of this, which I assume to be the default, and which I'd assume to be updated alongside changes like this (although it's not really any different in advance, rebellion and the mentioned cicada).

I'd think it's immediately obvious, but the widget is an entirely different style.
Every other widget has more spacing between elements in a very consistent logical fashion. Even widgets that do contain colors, the spacing and the shape help relax it.

The new service widget is just one big boxy block of color that looks out of place among the more elegant design of everything else (minus maybe the interfaced widget, but I fixed it in the dashboard editor just now by increasing the size once and then reducing it again, which hides the port information on narrower sizes correctly - EDIT: well, maybe not, a reload breaks it again).

The design and ease of use in the dashboard was something I always appreciated with opnsense (I have to deal with a large checkmk installation for work, I know bad dashboard design ;)).

[franco]

Thanks for your feedback... the people nagging there's excessive padding everywhere are awfully quiet at the moment. To some degree it's funny trying to cater to this part of the user base and seeing a bit of backlash for it.

We can add padding, make it bigger, or we can leave it to acclimate. I'm unsure yet with the mixed signals.

But there's one fact of life here that the dashboard needs to be reorganized by people using widgets that are changed in design and people may just not like that about it. I'm keeping mental notes on the situation.


Cheers,
Franco

[passeri]

Count me in the apparent minority who think the new services widget is an improvement. I like it. For context I use Opnsense's dark theme.

[dseven]

I like that it's compact - I actually had removed the (old) widget from my dashboard because it just took up too much space.... but as others have noted, the new one just doesn't match the style of the rest of the dashboard, so it "sticks out like a sore thumb". As I commented in one several other threads about this (one that got hijacked for a Hyper-V discussion), a more in-keeping style would be to have a "LED" to the left of each item, with color indicating the status, rather than using the background of the whole "button"... but at the expense of a bit of "compactness"...

[wbond]

Count me in the apparent minority who think the new services widget is an improvement. I like it. For context I use Opnsense's dark theme.

I have to agree, I felt the old one took up too much space.

Also, would like to add the update to 26.7 went fine for me, aside from the minor issue with the nut configuration page which was fixed by the patch. 

Congrats to the team.  With other firewall software I used to feel the need to install updates to a new drive so I could keep the previous install intact in case something went wrong.  With OPNsense I no longer feel the need to do this, just take a snapshot and proceed with the update.

[nero355]

Thanks for your feedback... the people nagging there's excessive padding everywhere are awfully quiet at the moment.
To some degree it's funny trying to cater to this part of the user base and seeing a bit of backlash for it.

We can add padding, make it bigger, or we can leave it to acclimate. I'm unsure yet with the mixed signals.

You could say I am one of those people in general, but the thing is : I am not much of a widget guy...

One possible explanation of that is because I have a bad image of it in my mind since Windows Vista and Android started using those damn things and I was always like : Why the hell would you use those things ?!

I know they have a totally different purpose for OPNsense and they are basically not widgets and something much more useful instead, but still I somehow can't really be bothered by them... Sorry! :)


So to make a long story short :

This =>

That's fair. I'm not a designer, however, so apologies if I can't be more specific..

Is very nice and compact without wasting unnecessary screenspace so I like it and perhaps will consider Enabling it again in 26.7.x after upgrading ;)

The only possible improvement that I can think of is perhaps experimenting with a black line around the green (the button ?) and perhaps using white text with a small black edge around the same way it's used commonly for subtitles, but maybe it's not even needed in this case... dunno...

Ohh and I like this idea too by the way :

a more in-keeping style would be to have a "LED" to the left of each item, with color indicating the status, rather than using the background of the whole "button"... but at the expense of a bit of "compactness"...

Seen that many times in other software (both round and square "LEDs" ) and can look very good!

[Amodin]

- Nut is finally working again with the default packages.

Unfortunately, it's not for me.  I had NUT previously installed using the latest OPN version prior to this one (26.1.11_10) but wasn't providing any diagnostic information, so I uninstalled it and did not revert to the previous version.

Rebooted prior to my 26.7 upgrade this morning after removing the intel-microcode plugin (after reading about the issues it was apparently causing during upgrade), and upgraded to 26.7 without issue.

So, I tried to install NUT after reading this post, and the configurations apparently remain even after uninstalling from yesterday, because the only thing that works is the diagnostics page.  The configuration page throws an error which I sent the issue via the OPNSense report button off.

I have nothing outlandishly installed on OPN, so there is still an issue with this plugin that perhaps you can see with my config that I reported.

Edit: (Patrick, I didn't see the other posts past your acknowledgement of NUT issues, lol)

[Amodin]

@Patrick, can you get into Services->NUT->Configuration? I am seeing a crash when I try. I can get into Diagnostics and it shows my UPS status, so it appears that NUT is running. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the NUT plugin, but that did not fix it.

Having the same issue (I just posted about above).

[Amodin]

Well, themes need to be maintained. Got downvoted on a discussion about services widget on Reddit so please throw actual usable ideas around instead of saying it's really bad. There are people who really like it too and said so, which is way less common than people complaining :)

Improved the colouring a little with the below patch, but in the end the theme is fully in charge which was the main design point to avoid complains it looks silly in themes and can't be overridden by themes.

# opnsense-patch https://github.com/opnsense/core/commit/ace8f12f51


Cheers,
Franco

My only issue with it is apparently theme-based colors, lol.


https://imgur.com/a/Lr8YMi9

[Patrick M. Hausen]

@Patrick, can you get into Services->NUT->Configuration? I am seeing a crash when I try. I can get into Diagnostics and it shows my UPS status, so it appears that NUT is running. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the NUT plugin, but that did not fix it.

Having the same issue (I just posted about above).

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opnsense-patch https://github.com/opnsense/core/commit/14710e7


[franco]

My only issue with it is apparently theme-based colors, lol.


https://imgur.com/a/Lr8YMi9

Yeah, this is an oversight more or less: https://forum.opnsense.org/index.php?topic=52451.0

We already use a a bit of brand-danger in the pages, but brand-success a lot less.  Doesn't change the fact that these are normal bootstrap branding colors that should go nicely in every theme.  If not it's easy to adjust them as it's just these two colors.

[vk2him]

Until a hotfix or 26.7.1 is released, opnsense-patch 14710e7 will fix the crash on Nginx, NUT and Squid menues

How do I apply this patch please?

[Patrick M. Hausen]

Until a hotfix or 26.7.1 is released, opnsense-patch 14710e7 will fix the crash on Nginx, NUT and Squid menues

How do I apply this patch please?

By entering this command as the root user logged in to your firewall:

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opnsense-patch https://github.com/opnsense/core/commit/14710e7

Logged in on the console or via SSH.