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meyergru
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Fix for potential ZFS corruption (and other) issues?
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December 09, 2023, 12:34:03 am »
Having followed some potential ZFS corruption issues that have been found with the ongoing OpenZFS 2.2 release but really
were lurking since 2.0 already
, I noticed that Proxmox has just issued new kernels and ZFS utilities with fixed Open ZFS 2.2.2.
I now saw a
video by Lawrence Systems about pfSense having fixed those issues as well
.
@Franco: Will those FreeBSD fixes make it into 23.7.10 or a hotfix version?
P.S.: There are also some security-relevant fixes in the latest pfSense release which probably triggered
this comment by Tom
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Re: Fix for potential ZFS corruption (and other) issues?
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December 09, 2023, 01:25:23 pm »
Fixes are in 13.2-p7, but I doubt that warrants a hotfix for OPNsense. Just the regular upkeep with FreeBSD for the next patch release.
The circumstances to trigger this data corruption bug are so rare and hardly encountered on a firewall ever. Really. That's why the bug has been discovered only recently. It's been lurking in the code for years.
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Re: Fix for potential ZFS corruption (and other) issues?
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December 10, 2023, 03:30:33 am »
Lots of scrambling for other systems reliant on ZFS. Proxmox and TrueNAS for a start. PFSense are not known for their proactive patch schedule, especially for the CE edition, but they have moved pretty quickly on this one. I hope OPNsense follows suit.
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December 10, 2023, 11:53:00 am »
I think the security-relevant fixes (e.g. potential TCP injection) is the more relevant part of this. However since my experiences back in the day with the "superior" ReiserFS, I am somewhat sensitive of potential data corruption in filesystems.
This is esspecially true for ZFS, which supposedly was to be the be-all and end-all of filesystems. Having recently jumped on the bandwagon on a larger scale, I was underwhelmed by some learnings I had about it since. To illustrate it:
1. ZFS supposedly is the best filesystem for Proxmox because it allows for live migration. Yes, but it also
allows for linear snapshots only
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2. ZFS is not so well integrated in Linux - at least I had data corruptions when NCQ was enabled.
That bug is still present
.
3. The
latest data curruption problems
that have been fixed in OpenZFS 2.2.2 just now.
Obviously, data corruption in a supposedly bullet-proof filesystem like ZFS is doubleplusungood (tm), however unlikely it may be. Interestingly enough, these corruptions apparently occur when data is appended to a file, something which OpnSense does while logging all the time.
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It's trigerred when files with are written and a second process that must use system calls to detect and efficiently handles holes copies that file before the block are flushed to stable storage. In that case it might get a hole (a run of zeroes) instead of the actual data.
That does not happen with logging.
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