Hello,
we have created OPNsense as a community in Discord and you are welcome to join.
the purpose of this Discord is to learn and exchange possibilities. anyone is welcome.
https://discord.gg/invite/kRBGSRpV7b (https://discord.gg/invite/kRBGSRpV7b)
its growing and fast.
Hi, it says the invite is invalid
I dont think this is officially driven by any core member
Hmm, I would like to hear the backstory and motivation of the creators. It might help others assess if they should join. At the moment it feels a little shallow.
Cheers,
Franco
given the community nature of opnsense, i'm surprised that there is no discord channel. most other open products I use have at least some discord presence, official or not.
No need to split the community now that you are here :)
yeah, that argument doesn't hold up.
I'm a member of plenty of discord/irc channels for different communities which have forums/subreddits. it does not 'split' the community at all, they both offer completely different and complimentary routes to get help or chat.
I get that. It is useful to have the potential option to get help quickly.
What I also see is that it discourages the sharing and documenting of information for posterity. The user gets a quick answer to a question and nobody else can benefit from it unless it's immediately after or in the moment, becomes fleeting tidbits.
Just as I find it annoying when I see on the forum a user that asks a question, gets an answer and doesn't even bother to give thanks, just takes. Maybe I'm old school and expect people to show manners that are perhaps seen as unnecessary on online forums, I don't know.
My 2 pence. Each to their own I suppose.
Quote from: thefunkygibbon on February 15, 2022, 04:12:19 PM
yeah, that argument doesn't hold up.
I'm a member of plenty of discord/irc channels for different communities which have forums/subreddits. it does not 'split' the community at all, they both offer completely different and complimentary routes to get help or chat.
I often see threads in both OPNsense subreddits and forums with different peoples and different (often wrong) answers. To me it feels wrong, but only my personal opinion
Quote from: mimugmail on February 15, 2022, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: thefunkygibbon on February 15, 2022, 04:12:19 PM
yeah, that argument doesn't hold up.
I'm a member of plenty of discord/irc channels for different communities which have forums/subreddits. it does not 'split' the community at all, they both offer completely different and complimentary routes to get help or chat.
I often see threads in both OPNsense subreddits and forums with different peoples and different (often wrong) answers. To me it feels wrong, but only my personal opinion
absolutely. manners are key!
I think for the most part it really matters what the thing is that you need help with. for example a firewall such as this, usually someone wants to advice THERE AND THEN. they've likely (hopefully scoured all online resources) and is now requiring to chat to someone who has more of a clue than they do. Its the next best thing to getting phone support really. Often (especially with more niche things) it can take hours or days to get a reply. (not saying its always massively quicker via chat... if noones around, noones around) Yes non essential things will still be posted on forums for all and sundry to benefit from. and chat servers help with offloading the banter/rubbish posts which are better suited to a chat than a forum.
my 2p's worth.
Seconding a need for a discord, topic take a really long time to get a response here and are sometimes just lost entirely
> I often see threads in both OPNsense subreddits and forums with different peoples and different (often wrong) answers. To me it feels wrong, but only my personal opinion
It depends on the subreddit. One is run by us and the other was run with the help of us but that is no longer the case so we don't post there and often false information is given due to this.
Twitter is half dead already with no useful replacement in sight. Some cases and reports there were also very helpful and effective...
To be frank, I don't mind a discord, but I've been neglecting IRC more than I should have since covid hit so I don't have a lot of energy for another communication channel.
We are working with marketing experts to review and improve communication channels, but so far nothing has been concluded.
Cheers,
Franco
Who runs the Twitter account for OPNsense?
Franco
FWIW, I also think a Discord channel for OPNsense discussion would be a great idea, whether official or not. I'm a little disappointed that the invite link in this thread is broken, whether 'officially endorsed' or not :shrug:
I see no reason to centralise discussion, or limit it to a certain format or venue.
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Ross
Quote from: OPNsensediscord on July 01, 2021, 06:17:31 PM
https://discord.gg/invite/kRBGSRpV7b (https://discord.gg/invite/kRBGSRpV7b)
its growing and fast.
Can you please update the URL?
Thx.
The problem with discord is that people expect immediate answers for their questions, as forums work a bit differently. discord is fun place to hang out with folks and chat...
Hello, I was looking for it as well. if someone found it I would take it :)
cheers
Quote from: ProperCactus on July 02, 2021, 07:22:03 AM
Hi, it says the invite is invalid
Any updates on this ??
+1
An official Discord server would be awesome.
My preference would be to have a Discord server for impromptu and random discussions, and generally connecting with community members through instant messaging. I'm not overly excited about returning to IRC for that purpose.
Expectations of immediate answers to questions should be ignored, as people need to understand that the vast majority of the community as a whole are operating on a best-effort capacity. The 'real' discussions should still be deferred to the official forums imo.
If the OPNsense team or maintainers have no objections to this proposal, I would be happy to setup, maintain and moderate such a (unofficial) server. If it proves to be beneficial, it wouldn't be a large leap to transfer ownership and make it official. However, if it causes divisions within the community, I would restrict everything to read-only and, once again, deferred to the official forums.
yup, no... I don't see this as a choice, since the business model exists and impromptu scenrario is not part of it unless you pay lots of mooolas.
Quote from: lilsense on April 04, 2024, 05:03:03 PM
[...] since the business model exists and impromptu scenrario is not part of it unless you pay lots of mooolas.
Not sure I follow. Can you elaborate? :)
Quote from: lilsense on September 15, 2023, 05:03:29 PM
[...] discord is fun place to hang out with folks and chat...
This would be my idea of said server, where
"impromptu and random discussions, and generally connecting with community members" would be
"Hang out with folks and chat".
My experience of chat-style meeting places is that they are exclusionary.
For simple population reasons, most activity is in a very different time zone from a reasonable proportion of other users, substantially unavailable to the latter. To the extent it deals with real issues, it is (in my experience) neither a record nor very accessible, especially if practically no-one is around when you ask. While it may appear a parochial view, the effect is real.
A great virtue of a forum of record rather than transitory exchange is that it alleviates the tyranny of distance.
> My preference would be to have a Discord server for impromptu and random discussions, and generally connecting with community members through instant messaging. I'm not overly excited about returning to IRC for that purpose.
Who do you want to interrupt for random discussions and why do you think it's a productive solution? :)
Cheers,
Franco
Quote from: franco on April 05, 2024, 11:30:53 AM
[...] Who do you want to interrupt for random discussions [...]
Did I come off as looking to interrupt someone? Then something got lost in translation, or we have different experience and expectation to instant messaging. I'm talking about 'chat rooms' (like forum sections) and not private/direct messages. If you feel interrupted, then there are some great privacy and notification settings.
Quote from: franco on April 05, 2024, 11:30:53 AM
[...] and why do you think it's a productive solution? :)
Productivity isn't necessarily the aim; instead, foster a communications channel for like-minded (OPNsense community members) that necessarily don't think a forum is the primary means of communication for all subjects and/or is not looking to be productive, or actually to be productive.
It's not like SMF screams productivity compared to alternative forums, just like IRC not screams productivity compared to Discord or Slack. :)
Impromptu means "extemporaneously" so I am simply wondering who you want to reach on zero notice through asking for a "qualified" channel on platform XYZ.
Bug trackers are extremely efficient for exact code problems. Forums are highly efficient for preserving historic support and giving advice on short notice.
I know it sounds lame but you just describe IRC in my opinion. ;)
Cheers,
Franco
I'd like a live community of people I can go to with small torubleshooting issues myself.
Can you update the link? Im in.
Actually OP, has only ever made one post, and hasn't updated the link, I've sent him 3 msgs over the course of a year so I am assuming its abandoned.
I am going to make one and regularly maintain it.
any OPNSense Mods/Staff are welcome to join and get moderator roles, I will also be mirroring the rules from this forum into this discord. :)
(I run some communities over 4k people so this shouldnt be too out of the wheelhouse.
https://discord.gg/AWEG4E6yaK