Wifi 6 mini pcie cards?

Started by Marinoz, July 15, 2024, 04:49:00 PM

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Quote from: Marinoz on July 19, 2024, 05:04:21 PM
Quote from: doktornotor on July 19, 2024, 04:19:24 PM
Quote from: Marinoz on July 19, 2024, 12:43:06 PM
thats why (see attachemnt). I need OVER 2.4 Gbps (not to be confused with 2.4ghz i need 2400 mbits per second) on the 5ghz band (ON ONE BAND NOT THE SUM UP).

Yeah, you will NOT get that. ;D ;D ;D
why not? what do you mean my man?
Theory vrs real-world application. Have a look for example https://www.increasebroadbandspeed.co.uk/realistic-speeds-wi-fi-5-and-wi-fi-6
Your requirement of over 2.4 Gbps wireless bandwidth and your insistence on achieving it via a consumer Wifi card being put in AP mode is what is making people telling you that is not yet possible to see a way to achieve it.
And this is for the practical side of the hardware.

Then it comes to where you've been told various times that (and I quote)  : 
"But fact is - there is no card that will turn your OPNsense into an AP capable of that. There are hardly any cards that work as an AP at all. OPNsense and FreeBSD have poor support for infrastructure mode, period."

So OPN or not, you can't reach your bandwidth target with a cheap card you want to use.
Then I assume you will be using OPN + OpenWRT somehow (quote) :
"OR have them both. One as firewall (opn) and the other as wifi ap"

Let us know how it goes.

Quote from: cookiemonster on July 19, 2024, 05:27:52 PM
Quote from: Marinoz on July 19, 2024, 05:04:21 PM
Quote from: doktornotor on July 19, 2024, 04:19:24 PM
Quote from: Marinoz on July 19, 2024, 12:43:06 PM
thats why (see attachemnt). I need OVER 2.4 Gbps (not to be confused with 2.4ghz i need 2400 mbits per second) on the 5ghz band (ON ONE BAND NOT THE SUM UP).

Yeah, you will NOT get that. ;D ;D ;D
why not? what do you mean my man?
Theory vrs real-world application. Have a look for example https://www.increasebroadbandspeed.co.uk/realistic-speeds-wi-fi-5-and-wi-fi-6
Your requirement of over 2.4 Gbps wireless bandwidth and your insistence on achieving it via a consumer Wifi card being put in AP mode is what is making people telling you that is not yet possible to see a way to achieve it.
And this is for the practical side of the hardware.

Then it comes to where you've been told various times that (and I quote)  : 
"But fact is - there is no card that will turn your OPNsense into an AP capable of that. There are hardly any cards that work as an AP at all. OPNsense and FreeBSD have poor support for infrastructure mode, period."

So OPN or not, you can't reach your bandwidth target with a cheap card you want to use.
Then I assume you will be using OPN + OpenWRT somehow (quote) :
"OR have them both. One as firewall (opn) and the other as wifi ap"

Let us know how it goes.
2021 article?

I would trust what they have said, again I've tried and failed so I'm just at the point where it won't work for me or I might be doing it for some odd cases I have once in a while. I bought a cheap GLi-net router for those odd cases, which is not at all wifi6 as I don't need that kind of speed.

If you want to challenge their advice, you are going to need to build it and show us that it can be done. Yes you are right in that a 2021 paper on wifi6 is probably not current, but I'd guess it also hasn't changed a huge amount as we do need to stick to standards. And every single device beyond the first is going to pull down those speeds, the airwaves are shared.

July 19, 2024, 11:44:22 PM #33 Last Edit: July 19, 2024, 11:47:21 PM by Marinoz
Quote from: cookiemonster on July 19, 2024, 05:27:52 PM
Quote from: Marinoz on July 19, 2024, 05:04:21 PM
Quote from: doktornotor on July 19, 2024, 04:19:24 PM
Quote from: Marinoz on July 19, 2024, 12:43:06 PM
thats why (see attachemnt). I need OVER 2.4 Gbps (not to be confused with 2.4ghz i need 2400 mbits per second) on the 5ghz band (ON ONE BAND NOT THE SUM UP).

Yeah, you will NOT get that. ;D ;D ;D
why not? what do you mean my man?
Theory vrs real-world application. Have a look for example https://www.increasebroadbandspeed.co.uk/realistic-speeds-wi-fi-5-and-wi-fi-6
Your requirement of over 2.4 Gbps wireless bandwidth and your insistence on achieving it via a consumer Wifi card being put in AP mode is what is making people telling you that is not yet possible to see a way to achieve it.
And this is for the practical side of the hardware.

Then it comes to where you've been told various times that (and I quote)  : 
"But fact is - there is no card that will turn your OPNsense into an AP capable of that. There are hardly any cards that work as an AP at all. OPNsense and FreeBSD have poor support for infrastructure mode, period."

So OPN or not, you can't reach your bandwidth target with a cheap card you want to use.
Then I assume you will be using OPN + OpenWRT somehow (quote) :
"OR have them both. One as firewall (opn) and the other as wifi ap"

Let us know how it goes.
FINALLY someone that gets it. As opnsense doesnt work with pcie cards i will buy the 3000mbps card and run opnse as firewall and openwrt as ap along in proxmox!!!!!! thanks coockie you are always the best edit: mt7916 asia rf npd is wifi 6e so yeah :)

What could possibly go wrong?  ::)
Deciso DEC750
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Wow, high-end scientific project! Keep us updated how things go...

100% sure it's the perfect hardware vendor for your project?
kind regards
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Quote from: Patrick M. Hausen on July 19, 2024, 11:50:36 PM
What could possibly go wrong?  ::)
why dont you enligthen me and tell me what could possibly go wrong?
Quote from: chemlud on July 20, 2024, 03:26:47 PM
Wow, high-end scientific project! Keep us updated how things go...

100% sure it's the perfect hardware vendor for your project?
cant tell if thats sarcasm or not...  :-\

You won't be able to build a 2400 Mbit/s net throughput WiFi router from a scrap PC and some China WiFi card. But go ahead and try. It will hopefully be instructive.

I prefer to use a real AP.
Deciso DEC750
People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. (Isaac Asimov)

Quote from: Patrick M. Hausen on July 21, 2024, 12:50:36 AM
You won't be able to build a 2400 Mbit/s net throughput WiFi router from a scrap PC and some China WiFi card. But go ahead and try. It will hopefully be instructive.

I prefer to use a real AP.
alright alright i will buy an ap but is there an ap with symmetrical speeds on lan and wlan ? preferably under 200 euros