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English Forums => Hardware and Performance => Topic started by: udippel on February 15, 2015, 02:42:48 pm

Title: Embedded - Soekris - ???
Post by: udippel on February 15, 2015, 02:42:48 pm
First, congratulations to a promising new project!
What I read so far looks good, sounds sensible. Good.

I have been running a Soekris 4801 for 10 years now at our house(s) and was happy with the 'fire and forget'. From time to time an upgrade to m0n0wall, of course.

While I totally appreciate your efforts, including the superior PF of the OpenBSD people, I really don't see (maybe Bill Gates beat me to it? Or IBM's Watson in 1944?) that our cable modem needs a firewall with more than 128 MB of RAM, running off a CF larger than 512 MB. ;-)

Having just read Manuel Kaspers death cert on m0n0wall, I'd really love to know about a replacement for embedded stuff. Let's face it, most home users won't have to run a noisy quad-core 64-bit machine for the effective filtering of a cable modem or likewise, even if we have a dozen 'machines'. [The quotes are there because the clients are in many cases mobil phones, tablets, Internet radios, or PCs to write a mail, a twitter, or send a text document.]
In case OPNsense has another target, I wouldn't mind a pointer to another embedded solution, preferably based on BSD and running in RAM.

Kind regards,

Uwe
Title: Re: Embedded - Soekris - ???
Post by: franco on February 15, 2015, 06:10:03 pm
Hi Uwe,

as Manuel put it: it's 2015. That means to make a couple of hard choices for project alignment. We are talking Multi-Gigabit links these days, newer and hopefully more secure implementations and encryption. The consideration is also to have a more standards-compliant distribution that is compatible to its underlying operating system.

The premise of a slick appliance has therefore shifted in said 12 years. We as OPNsense now use an almost stock FreeBSD 10 plus 150 extra ports. That brings us up to an installation of 600 MB, so you are running out of space on a 512 MB card. 1G cards are a safe bet for the next two years maybe, but even that might change.

128 MB of RAM is exceptionally low in today's terms. One should have at least 512 MB. Below that there's not much room for a snappy GUI and flexible backend implementation. It's not required for operation, but work needs to be put into headless installations to make them viable...

That doesn't mean there aren't others out there doing the job properly already or using an existing projects to help strip those down for low requirements. After all it's easier to strip things down than to enrich. We're doing the second thing for the benefit of the community and will help in any way we can to produce lightweight offsprings in the mid and long term. :)

Hope that helps,

Franco
Title: Re: Embedded - Soekris - ???
Post by: bitTwiddler on November 21, 2016, 06:35:14 pm
If anyone figures out how to run OPNsense on Soekris 48xx please let us know.  I have dozens of these boxes which I would like to upgrade from m0nowall.

I like the Decisio hardware but the cost and capacity would be completely wasted on most of my applications.

Cheers
Title: Re: Embedded - Soekris - ???
Post by: jstrebel on November 22, 2016, 08:17:28 am
If anyone figures out how to run OPNsense on Soekris 48xx please let us know.  I have dozens of these boxes which I would like to upgrade from m0nowall.

I like the Decisio hardware but the cost and capacity would be completely wasted on most of my applications.

Cheers
The amount of memory (256mb) will prevent you doing this. Would go to t1n1wall in your case


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