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Title: after upgrade from 25.1.12 to 25.7 / 25.7.1, observing frequent OSPF Error log
Post by: hharry on July 31, 2025, 05:23:56 PM
after upgrade from OPNsense 25.1.12  to 25.7 / 25.7.1, observing frequent frr OSPF Error logs, immediately after OSPF neighbors are in Full state


Prior to the upgrade to 25.7 / 25.7.1 these errors are not observed.

Just as well i have ESXi VM snapshot, considering rolling back....to 25.1.12....

At bit of googling found the below....

Explanation of the Discrepancy:
This discrepancy occurs because the operating system has a maximum limit for the SO_SNDBUF size that can be set for a socket. Even if an application requests a larger buffer, the kernel will cap it at its configured maximum. This limit is typically controlled by a sysctl variable on FreeBSD, such as kern.ipc.maxsockbuf.
Title: Re: after upgrade from 25.1.12 to 25.7 / 25.7.1, obseerving frequent OSPF Error log
Post by: hharry on July 31, 2025, 05:54:07 PM
so i increased the tunable kern.ipc.maxsockbuf from the default value, to 33554432 (32Mbytes), and re-started frr and has resolved the issue....

Anybody know if any downsides by increasing kern.ipc.maxsockbuf to 32Mbytes ?
Title: Re: after upgrade from 25.1.12 to 25.7 / 25.7.1, observing frequent OSPF Error log
Post by: jonny5 on July 31, 2025, 09:07:04 PM
While I do not know much about OSPF, I have looked up a lot of tuning elements for OPNSense and FreeBSD as mine runs on older metal host and I'm doing 10G intranet.

https://calomel.org/freebsd_network_tuning.html

This website ^ has details about many tuning elements, but they use a different reference of values for kern.ipc.maxsockbuf and so while I do not think there is a limitation/drawback to increasing the value (much the opposite it seems), using a logical value seems wise.

For my router, I have the value set at: 614400000

Seems yours is already working, but who knows if there is odd grouping/read/writes to that space due to a unqiue value - that said, how this values comes to be seems pretty odd to me, and so I didn't do all the work necessary to evaluate your "33554432" - just wanted to share a resource I found that has helped lower buffer bloat and latency.

The specific part from their website that seems important:
# speed:   1 Gbit   maxsockbuf:   2MB   wscale:  6   in-flight:  2^6*65KB =    4MB (default)
# speed:   2 Gbit   maxsockbuf:   4MB   wscale:  7   in-flight:  2^7*65KB =    8MB
# speed:  10 Gbit   maxsockbuf:  16MB   wscale:  9   in-flight:  2^9*65KB =   32MB
# speed:  40 Gbit   maxsockbuf: 150MB   wscale: 12   in-flight: 2^12*65KB =  260MB
# speed: 100 Gbit   maxsockbuf: 600MB   wscale: 14   in-flight: 2^14*65KB = 1064MB
#
#kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=2097152    # (wscale  6 ; default)
#kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=4194304    # (wscale  7)
kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=16777216   # (wscale  9)
#kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=157286400  # (wscale 12)
#kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=614400000   # (wscale 14)
Title: Re: after upgrade from 25.1.12 to 25.7 / 25.7.1, observing frequent OSPF Error log
Post by: hharry on August 01, 2025, 02:10:51 AM
i've been monitoring mbuf and memory utilization, and so far so good.

I suspect the new version of frr, decided that as vmxnet3 (vmx) interface's runs @10Gbps, it decided for optimization reasons, to request 32Mbytes of SO_SNDBUF to FreeBSD.....which FreeBSD denied and decided to limit SO_SNDBUF to 2Mbytes....Looks like FreeBSD are a bit behind the optimization times.....

It's a bit interesting that frr responded to this FreeBSD limitation as an error, rather than a warning...I might ping the frr project to get their view on the matter, see what they have to say....

I also run frr 10.3 and 10.4 on a number (dozens) of other production linux (Debian, Ubuntu and Rocky) hosts/routers, running a mix of BFD. OSPF and BGP, with as little as 1Gbyte RAM, also with vmxnet3 interfaces @10Gbps, and frr is not complaining....and performance is just superb...
Title: Re: after upgrade from 25.1.12 to 25.7 / 25.7.1, observing frequent OSPF Error log
Post by: franco on August 01, 2025, 08:24:41 AM
To be fair, FreeBSD ports has had a package message regarding the proper fix:

https://github.com/opnsense/ports/blob/ec41f23e1fecedb87f4671fc554389db176835b4/net/frr10/pkg-message#L10-L14


Cheers,
Franco
Title: Re: after upgrade from 25.1.12 to 25.7 / 25.7.1, observing frequent OSPF Error log
Post by: Monviech (Cedrik) on August 01, 2025, 09:01:42 AM
I have tested that earlier and for some reason since frr10 you need to specify double the amount to satisfy requirements:

https://github.com/opnsense/plugins/issues/4840#issuecomment-3126806779