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Title: Unable to boost higher than 3.8Ghz on zen3 5800X
Post by: Mastah on March 23, 2024, 09:38:57 pm: Somehow my CPU is unable to boost higher than 3.8Ghz on opnsense.
When I boot the exact same hardware on debian all core reach 4.7-4.8Ghz easily.

When I check sysctl output it clearly show that opnsense is unable to manage higher than 3.8Ghz

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sysctl hw.acpi
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hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C8 hw.acpi.cpu.cppc_notify: 1 hw.acpi.reset_video: 0 hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 1 hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.verbose: 0 hw.acpi.s4bios: 0 hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1 hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3 hw.acpi.standby_state: NONE hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S3 hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S3 S4 S5

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sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq
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dev.cpu.0.freq: 3800

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sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels
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dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 3800/4180 2800/2800 2200/1980

OPNsense 24.1.2_1-amd64
Title: Re: Unable to boost higher than 3.8Ghz on zen3 5800X
Post by: Mastah on March 24, 2024, 04:23:36 pm: powerd -v give the following during high usage

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changing clock speed from 2200 MHz to 3800 MHz load 70%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 6460 MHz load 73%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 63%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 64%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 72%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 63%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 66%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 75%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 72%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 66%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 73%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 64%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 67%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 88%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 69%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 72%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz load 87%, current freq 3800 MHz ( 0), wanted freq 7600 MHz
So definitly wants to get boost but still lock at 3800

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sysctl dev.cpu
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dev.cpu.15.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.15.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.15.cx_usage_counters: 4862 458019 dev.cpu.15.cx_usage: 1.05% 98.94% last 66101us dev.cpu.15.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.15.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.15.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.15.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.15.%location: handle=\_PR_.C00F dev.cpu.15.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.15.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.14.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.14.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.14.cx_usage_counters: 5216 448305 dev.cpu.14.cx_usage: 1.15% 98.84% last 93319us dev.cpu.14.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.14.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.14.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.14.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.14.%location: handle=\_PR_.C00E dev.cpu.14.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.14.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.13.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.13.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.13.cx_usage_counters: 4980 438561 dev.cpu.13.cx_usage: 1.12% 98.87% last 108163us dev.cpu.13.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.13.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.13.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.13.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.13.%location: handle=\_PR_.C00D dev.cpu.13.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.13.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.12.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.12.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.12.cx_usage_counters: 5005 434655 dev.cpu.12.cx_usage: 1.13% 98.86% last 130722us dev.cpu.12.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.12.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.12.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.12.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.12.%location: handle=\_PR_.C00C dev.cpu.12.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.12.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.11.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.11.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.11.cx_usage_counters: 5089 437012 dev.cpu.11.cx_usage: 1.15% 98.84% last 242396us dev.cpu.11.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.11.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.11.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.11.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.11.%location: handle=\_PR_.C00B dev.cpu.11.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.11.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.10.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.10.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.10.cx_usage_counters: 5108 439730 dev.cpu.10.cx_usage: 1.14% 98.85% last 310027us dev.cpu.10.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.10.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.10.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.10.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.10.%location: handle=\_PR_.C00A dev.cpu.10.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.10.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.9.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.9.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.9.cx_usage_counters: 4608 470169 dev.cpu.9.cx_usage: 0.97% 99.02% last 39290us dev.cpu.9.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.9.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.9.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.9.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.9.%location: handle=\_PR_.C009 dev.cpu.9.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.9.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.8.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.8.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.8.cx_usage_counters: 4989 433776 dev.cpu.8.cx_usage: 1.13% 98.86% last 39333us dev.cpu.8.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.8.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.8.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.8.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.8.%location: handle=\_PR_.C008 dev.cpu.8.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.8.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.7.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.7.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.7.cx_usage_counters: 4671 492909 dev.cpu.7.cx_usage: 0.93% 99.06% last 74302us dev.cpu.7.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.7.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.7.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.7.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.7.%location: handle=\_PR_.C007 dev.cpu.7.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.7.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.6.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.6.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.6.cx_usage_counters: 5617 791347 dev.cpu.6.cx_usage: 0.70% 99.29% last 46544us dev.cpu.6.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.6.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.6.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.6.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.6.%location: handle=\_PR_.C006 dev.cpu.6.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.6.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.5.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.5.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.5.cx_usage_counters: 4659 477757 dev.cpu.5.cx_usage: 0.96% 99.03% last 128292us dev.cpu.5.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.5.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.5.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.5.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.5.%location: handle=\_PR_.C005 dev.cpu.5.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.5.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.4.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.4.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.4.cx_usage_counters: 5746 698691 dev.cpu.4.cx_usage: 0.81% 99.18% last 8754us dev.cpu.4.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.4.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.4.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.4.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.4.%location: handle=\_PR_.C004 dev.cpu.4.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.4.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.3.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.3.cx_usage_counters: 4708 483212 dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 0.96% 99.03% last 115489us dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.3.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.3.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.3.%location: handle=\_PR_.C003 dev.cpu.3.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.3.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.2.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.2.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.2.cx_usage_counters: 5096 539661 dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 0.93% 99.06% last 40502us dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.2.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.2.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.2.%location: handle=\_PR_.C002 dev.cpu.2.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.2.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.1.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.1.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.1.cx_usage_counters: 4564 466781 dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 0.96% 99.03% last 120392us dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.C001 dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.temperature: 48.5C dev.cpu.0.cx_method: C1/hlt C2/io dev.cpu.0.cx_usage_counters: 5075 845559 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 0.59% 99.40% last 5814us dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C8 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/18 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 3800/4180 2800/2800 2200/1980 dev.cpu.0.freq: 3800 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.C000 dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.%parent:
Title: Re: Unable to boost higher than 3.8Ghz on zen3 5800X
Post by: Mastah on March 25, 2024, 06:23:39 pm: After speaking with people at freebsd discord I've more than the feeling that freebsd is at best dying, at worst already dead and can't keep with modern tech and hardware.

The more I think about it and the more I believe that freebsd is not the way to go, and that opnsense should switch to something with more support, more perf and more hardware support.
Title: Re: Unable to boost higher than 3.8Ghz on zen3 5800X
Post by: Monviech on March 25, 2024, 07:36:02 pm: Just to show what runs most of the internet, a FreeBSD based OS.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junos_OS
Title: Re: Unable to boost higher than 3.8Ghz on zen3 5800X
Post by: Seimus on March 26, 2024, 01:56:36 am: Quote from: Monviech on March 25, 2024, 07:36:02 pm
Just to show what runs most of the internet, a FreeBSD based OS.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junos_OS

Correct, this is so true yet so many people dont even realize it. Even most if not all PE and P routers for MPLS, AVPN, EVPN and L2VPN are running on Juniper Routers.

Quote from: Mastah on March 25, 2024, 06:23:39 pm
After speaking with people at freebsd discord I've more than the feeling that freebsd is at best dying, at worst already dead and can't keep with modern tech and hardware.

The more I think about it and the more I believe that freebsd is not the way to go, and that opnsense should switch to something with more support, more perf and more hardware support.

Sorry but absolute nonsense.

Also using Discord for asking help on a OS is just wrong. Ask them on forum not on discord, thats where is the knowhow.

Also did you set your PowerD settings in OPN to HiAdaptive at least?

Regards,
S.
Title: Re: Unable to boost higher than 3.8Ghz on zen3 5800X
Post by: Mastah on March 27, 2024, 12:41:14 am: Quote from: Seimus on March 26, 2024, 01:56:36 am
Also did you set your PowerD settings in OPN to HiAdaptive at least?

Yes I did, no it doesn't work. Yes the ppl on discord are actual contributor to the source code of freebsd.
And no, the kernel is not able so it would seem, to handle properly AMD cpu above zen2. And even zen2 are not supported correctly. That a 5-6years old tech at that point.

You are speaking of custom OS that have forked for more than 10-15years from BSD. It's like comparing Apple OS to unix/linux.
I'm wondering why some major open source (and not open source) project are getting the f out of bsd to move to linux though.
Title: Re: Unable to boost higher than 3.8Ghz on zen3 5800X
Post by: Mastah on March 28, 2024, 12:35:32 am: Been testing Debian 12 on the exact same hardware today (dual booting next to opnsense).

CPU load is 2-3 times less, thread are spread on multiples cores, CPU boost is maxed, packet loss is 0, and routing work damn great.

I max out a symmetrical 10Gbe, which I was not able to do prior to that.

Up to you to draw the conclusion. Linux is my new router.